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So smaller tires are better for drag racing? You're a tard. (n/m)
Posted by
Kenny 14 psi
on January 07, 2004 at 8:39 AM
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very small contact patch
posted by Technomancer
on January 06, 2004 at 04:01 PM
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Quiz of the day (for the physics guys)
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MaTT (90TT)
13:26:36 01/06/04
I'd SO love it if you could make your Sig bigger. (sarcasm) (n/m)
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nixit
13:32:02 01/06/04
If you single-handedly answer the question I will. (n/m)
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MaTT (90TT)
13:34:14 01/06/04
Surface area doesn't increase applied frictional force? (n/m)
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Kenny 14 psi
13:35:49 01/06/04
Nope.
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MaTT (90TT)
13:38:22 01/06/04
ff= asdfw x sad0f9
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Kenny 14 psi
13:41:42 01/06/04
um, no
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MaTT (90TT)
13:43:36 01/06/04
In a two dimensional world, yes (n/m)
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BigTDogg (MA)
13:46:30 01/06/04
explain... (n/m)
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MaTT (90TT)
13:48:00 01/06/04
think of it this way bro
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THAyz1
13:54:03 01/06/04
wrong. read technomancer's post, he puts us to shame. (n/m)
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MaTT (90TT)
14:01:36 01/06/04
That's what left me scratching my head too. (n/m)
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FlawleZ
13:38:44 01/06/04
It does, but is a far less significant factor than:
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therinL
14:02:00 01/06/04
See, that was the problem.
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MaTT (90TT)
14:05:30 01/06/04
It does, see my post below. (n/m)
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PA_Z
16:57:30 01/06/04
Look - it's simple.
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Kenny 14 psi
13:38:36 01/06/04
It doesn't work that way. (n/m)
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MaTT (90TT)
13:39:35 01/06/04
Then how does it work?
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Kenny 14 psi
13:50:58 01/06/04
I never said that, you need to stop replying.
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MaTT (90TT)
13:53:59 01/06/04
You can't adhere strictly to text book physics...
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The Sixth
13:52:50 01/06/04
So basically it's over my head >>>
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MaTT (90TT)
13:56:40 01/06/04
Not to understand...no...
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The Sixth
14:06:03 01/06/04
Re: Quiz of the day (for the physics guys)
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nixit
13:44:50 01/06/04
but...
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MaTT (90TT)
13:50:08 01/06/04
small flaw in that logic...
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PhoenixZx
14:31:16 01/06/04
What about gravatational pull?
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ZMEGOBY®
18:13:39 01/06/04
negligible (n/m)
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MaTT (90TT)
22:27:23 01/06/04
try this
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THAyz1
13:46:58 01/06/04
prove it though.
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MaTT (90TT)
13:51:46 01/06/04
look at my other post (n/m)
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THAyz1
13:54:49 01/06/04
Mu is dependent on the tire and surface you're on...
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BigTDogg (MA)
13:52:24 01/06/04
I think it probably has something to do with the
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RSR
13:52:44 01/06/04
agreed, sounds good to me. (n/m)
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MaTT (90TT)
14:00:24 01/06/04
It is not trivial
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Technomancer
13:52:55 01/06/04
Thank you!! Kenny 14 psi, please read this ^^ (n/m)
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MaTT (90TT)
13:58:57 01/06/04
You're the one that assumed tires were solid objects.
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Kenny 14 psi
14:07:02 01/06/04
correction
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SactoTodd
14:17:48 01/06/04
People who live in glass houses should not throw stones.
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Kenny 14 psi
14:50:01 01/06/04
lol (n/m)
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colocomp (Denver)
14:59:33 01/06/04
your funny (n/m)
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the3z
18:01:25 01/06/04
:raises hand: (n/m)
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MaTT (90TT)
22:29:03 01/06/04
bingo (n/m)
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BryZ32TT
14:11:10 01/06/04
agreed (n/m)
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aliaZ
14:12:17 01/06/04
No offense, but that logic, as with 99% of what highschool
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SAHTT
14:05:12 01/06/04
Yeah, high school physics sucks ;) too many absolutes. (n/m)
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MaTT (90TT)
14:06:47 01/06/04
YES!!! What he said :) (n/m)
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The Sixth
14:07:52 01/06/04
....design of experiments....understand interactions... (n/m)
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RSR
14:33:34 01/06/04
All good points. You also have wear and heat to worry about.
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Marshall
14:16:48 01/06/04
...good point about heat dissipation... (n/m)
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RSR
14:35:29 01/06/04
Absolutely right. That's why bigger brake kits do NOT,
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PA_Z
15:52:50 01/06/04
Not going to touch the tire one...
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90Z-NA ( ATL )
14:20:30 01/06/04
Yeah
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Marshall
14:29:50 01/06/04
wider tires provide an advantage in acceleration, because
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JC_NS
14:39:36 01/06/04
I mean braking. (n/m)
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JC_NS
14:47:24 01/06/04
not true
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Technomancer
14:55:00 01/06/04
Correct
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ZBlacktt
15:01:16 01/06/04
I thought they did tire ratings based on actual performance. (n/m)
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Kenny 14 psi
15:14:44 01/06/04
Overall characteristics and classification, yes.
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ZBlacktt
15:24:50 01/06/04
They why the hell don't these guys use bicycle tires?
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Kenny 14 psi
15:09:32 01/06/04
I think we are all getting a little ridiculous here. (n/m)
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T0M
15:18:28 01/06/04
very small contact patch
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Technomancer
16:01:23 01/06/04
So smaller tires are better for drag racing? You're a tard. (n/m) -
Kenny 14 psi
08:39:57 01/07/04
2nd.....BUT drag racing is boring (n/m)
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NR98 (soon)
08:45:15 01/07/04
be careful whom you follow
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Technomancer
11:31:49 01/07/04
Ok. Bicycle tires are the best. Gotcha. (n/m)
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Kenny 14 psi
16:52:23 01/07/04
Tires are not solid objects. That law does not apply.
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Kenny 14 psi
08:46:30 01/07/04
You simply don't read very well.
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Technomancer
10:32:47 01/07/04
Wrong. (n/m)
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Kenny 14 psi
16:51:50 01/07/04
hahaha (n/m)
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MaTT (90TT)
19:03:45 01/07/04
Look at Clutches,6 pucks owns full disc,4 puck owns 6 puck
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ZBlacktt
14:57:51 01/06/04
Does your question take friction material into consideration
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Dave N
15:11:44 01/06/04
Coeff. of Fric. is not the same between different compounds. (n/m)
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Kenny 14 psi
15:13:22 01/06/04
Yes, but 6 pads same materiel better than 8?
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ZBlacktt
15:21:37 01/06/04
Don't forget, Fn = Pressure * Area, and...
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PA_Z
16:00:12 01/06/04
I though it had to do with application and use.
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ZBlacktt
16:18:21 01/06/04
Same weight, larger surface area, more traction.
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AshsZ
18:36:01 01/06/04
hm...
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MaTT (90TT)
22:39:03 01/06/04
Tech argued smaller tires are better for dragracing.
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Kenny 14 psi
08:41:04 01/07/04
Never said that once.
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Technomancer
10:34:30 01/07/04
Here's the quote:
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Kenny 14 psi
16:50:46 01/07/04
"narrower" does not equal "smaller area"
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Technomancer
09:10:09 01/08/04
Tech's posts use a formula for solid (non-elastic) objects.
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Kenny 14 psi
08:48:22 01/07/04
My post *specifically* says that F=mu*N does not apply
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Technomancer
10:33:53 01/07/04
Nope.
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Kenny 14 psi
16:54:14 01/07/04
Curious...
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MaTT (90TT)
19:06:32 01/07/04
I didn't take the ACT. I did take the SAT however.
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Kenny 14 psi
23:11:24 01/07/04
Congratulations. I have a Ph.D. in physics...
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Technomancer
09:27:00 01/08/04
Okay.
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Kenny 14 psi
10:47:01 01/08/04
ok
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Technomancer
11:40:05 01/08/04
I will.
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Kenny 14 psi
11:46:09 01/08/04
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